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HARLAN LEE TERSON

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"...steady but unspectacular..." An Ottawa, Ontario newspaper critic, 1979

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Four Blues Bass Masters

"It’s like picking a route. You have to be at a certain place at a certain time,

but you can find an interesting way to get there."

That’s how Harlan Terson sums up blues bass playing, something he’s done professionally for more than two decades. The 40-year-old is just one of Chicago’s great blues bassists. They’re a diverse group: young and old, black and white, funky and traditional. To get a feeling for what it takes to be a blues professional, we checked in with Terson and three other outstanding players: Greg Rzab, Noel Neal, and Johnny B. Gayden. Although they’ve all played "Sweet Home Chicago" dozens of times, each one always finds a way to make it sound fresh. Here’s how they do it.

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While Noel Neal envisions himself leading a band, others are content to remain in the background. "You have your show-off instruments and your rhythm instruments," says Harlan Terson, a 25-year veteran who’s played with Lonnie Brooks, Bo Diddley, Eddie Shaw, Steve Freund, and others. In many ways, Terson and Neal represent the opposite ends of the blues bass spectrum. "I play in the more traditional style, and I don’t get bored with it," says Harlan. "I see bass as a disciplined instrument. I’m a sideman, and I do my best to make the guy up front look and sound good. That’s even more important when you’re an independent contractor, because you have to make the bandleaders recognize you. Even the most simple thing you play has to have character and depth and feeling—it can’t just lie there. If your lines move the music forward, then the whole band sounds good."

Terson grew up in Chicago, absorbing the blues he heard all around him. His first instrument was guitar, but he switched to bass when he discovered there weren’t enough bassists to go around. "I listened to Muddy Waters and Howlin’ Wolf and blues-based bands like Cream and early Jethro Tull. I thought, ‘Rock is just blues played really loud." I also heard a lot of Motown and played in a soul band. Learning the lines of bassists like James Jamerson, Carol Kaye, Jerry Jemmott, and Duck Dunn was really inspiring."

After playing local gigs as a teen-ager, Terson earned a degree in music at the University of Illinois in Chicago—"It was just a technical explanation of everything I’d already been doing"—before launching his career as a full-time pro.

"Even the simple things must have character and depth and feeling."

--Harlan Terson

His first steady gig was in a band led by guitarist Sonny Wimberly, a former sideman with Muddy Waters. Harlan went on to play with ex-Canned Heat guitarist Mark Skyer, and then joined the Lonnie Brooks band in 1976, where he stayed for six years. He made his best-known recording with Brooks, a live version of "Sweet Home Chicago" recorded at Chicagofest ’80. It was included on the Grammy-nominated Alligator album Blues Deluxe and still gets played on the radio (at least in the Windy City).

These days, Terson can be heard regularly with the Frank Pellegrino Band and a cooperative group known as the Fabulous Fish Heads. He also freelances extensively and is often called in at the last minute—or ten minutes later—to play with an unfamiliar band. "If you’re going to do that, you have to be completely professional. You’ve got to have reliable transportation, show up on time, have a backup system. And when you’re there, you have to really listen."

"The blues is the soundtrack of my life," Terson says. "It just gets in your blood. It’s not even a conscious choice; it’s like you’re almost chained to it, even though you might be more successful playing something else. The bands change like the weather, and it can be discouraging. Thankfully, I’ve been able to make a living playing music for a long time—although there’s more to it than money. There are a lot of better-paying gigs, but not many offer the same satisfaction. The blues may seem restricting, but there’s always an interesting way to play it. You keep growing and generating fresh ideas, although I don’t get carried away—a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing on a rhythm instrument."


       From Bass Player, July/Aug 1991
        Copyright Miller Freeman, Inc. used by permission.

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SOLID
A Conversation with Harlan Terson

    by Cathi Norton


     I was sitting in the middle of the crowded club; grateful we'd scored some seats because the place was packed. A few frat boys were smokin' big stogies and grossing out their dates right in front of us, but we politely ignored them, bigger things on our minds. The band had been oiling up the machinery for about fifteen minutes when Otis Rush came out. He strapped on that sweet looking, red Gibson 335 and the minute his fingers hit the strings…heaven. His backup band that night was a little rough, but we hardly noticed because Otis, all alone in a huge crowd, commanded our attention. He didn't even have to speak; the romance between his fingers and his guitar said it all.

      In the middle of this double-Dutch treat for the ears, I noticed small cues between him and band members that said things weren't going right. He gave quick instructions before a couple of the numbers and even played the bass line a few times to give the bass player hints, but something was jamming up the works. The band got more ragged as Otis's lips got thin and he struggled to overcome his irritation. (The runaway downward train -- I know it well!) Though the crowd didn't seem to notice, I got antsy, as did my musician companions. The band's sound was going downhill fast. Even the frat boys were starting to notice when I saw Otis wave a man toward the stage and announced a guest would sit in. A slight guy quietly took the stage and threw the bass strap over his shoulder. He didn't look too flash--faded right into the backup band scenery. But when Otis counted off the tune, the whole band seemed to click into place. The Volkswagen had turned into a Cadillac. I don't think I could have commissioned a better example of what a difference a good rhythm section can make. I had a fabulous evening, well aware that I was listening to something special and rare. I doubt there's anybody better than Otis. I couldn't get that bass player out of my mind.

     I asked for his name and promptly forgot it in the rush of activities that weekend. Time moved on and then another night, another month, another state, another club later, there he was again, quietly setting up his gear to back up Alex Schultz and Tad Robinson. I've got a secret weak spot for backup musicians who work hard, play great, and remain unnoticed. Maybe like all the famous musicians I've admired were once. And of course, like so many of us who never "make it" but hold the basic fabric of music together. I waited no longer.

     His name is Harlan Terson, and he is just what he seemed: a solid player who makes his living as a bass-man-at-large in the highly competitive Chicago blues scene. Born there in 1951, Terson got a guitar in 1963 and began learning folk music from records and chord books when the Beatles and Stones brought the blues to him. "I was this long-haired teenager listening to 'Cream' do 'Howlin' Wolf,' and I didn't even know what's in my own back yard!" But Chicago favorites Paul Butterfield, Mike Bloomfield, the Siegal-Schwall Band and others made their presence known and before long Terson was making trips to "Alice's Revisited" (now a dance club called "950") to see Muddy Waters. "When I realized where all this music was coming from, that's kind of when the jig was up," Harlan laughs.

      Terson played guitar for awhile in bands, but soon realized there was a greater need for bass players. Once he started, he realized he had a real penchant for it. He earned a degree in music at the University of Illinois--Chicago and went into music full time. A friendship with former Muddy Waters' sideman Sonny Wimberly led to steady club work. From the first Terson was skilled and dependable, valued qualities in a player. He worked with Mark Skyer (Canned Heat), did six years with Lonnie Brooks' band, and freelanced everywhere--still does. His reputation as a studio session man is equally broad after recording with Tad Robinson, Lurrie Bell, Dave Specter, Deitra Farr, Eddie Shaw, Lonnie Brooks (Brooks' album "Blues Deluxe" was nominated for a Grammy), Steve Freund, and many others. In traditional Chicago style, Terson lives from gig to gig, but his abilities keep him eating, and his love for the blues keeps him happy. Any full-time player knows it's a tough business that takes something special to sustain. Harlan's got it.

CATHI: So you really hit the steady giggin' in the early '70's?

HARLAN: I started with Sonny (Wimberly) in '75; went with Mark (Skyer) probably in '75, because I started playing with Lonnie (Brooks) in '76. It was a progression.

CATHI: What was the Chicago scene like then?

HARLAN: Well, I have a partner, Bob Levis (guitarist) who has played with me since high School. We still play together a lot. We're like a rhythm section that kept picking up front guys. Each band was a little big higher of a level. Back then there was a small club scene that young bands did and then there was the blues scene that started to move up to the North side. Not really many whites went down to the south side back then. But up north the "Wise Fools" club was a place we could play. I played there with Lonnie.

CATHI: And you stayed with Lonnie for six years? Now his son Ronnie has his own thing too I see.

HARLAN: Yeah, six years, several records, some Europe. It was a nice band, really very family-like. When I was with Lonnie his sons Ronnie and Wayne were just little kids. Now Ronnie teases me every time he sees me because I used to kick him out of the basement. The kids would drive us nuts.

CATHI: (Laughter) What would they do?

HARLAN: Aw, they just wanted to come down there -- they loved music! You can see they're both successful musicians now. They just wanted to come down, bop around, and dig it.

CATHI: That band had to be a wealth of experience for you. What happened after it?

HARLAN: Well Ken Saydak, Steve Freund, and I put a band together. It was called the "Blueprints" and that lasted maybe a year or so.

CATHI: That was before Steve's gig with Sunnyland Slim?

HARLAN: Well, Steve held down that gig at B.L.U.E.S. -- and the Sunday Night Blues even before it was with Sunnyland. He was with Big Walter Horton and Floyd Jones -- he was there a long time!

CATHI: So then what (laughter)?

HARLAN: Well I played in various bands at the "Kingston Mines," and in a Motown Soul Band called "Rhythm City." And this is where it gets terrible Cathi, I started gigging around everywhere.

CATHI: Why is that terrible Harlan?

HARLAN: Well, it's not real inspiring.

CATHI: I don't know…speaking as a well-traveled musician I gotta say, sticking it out is pretty darned inspiring.

HARLAN: It takes a certain amount of guts just to stay in the business. I just wish I pursued a steady band--like Tad's (Robinson) for instance. But that is the exception these days.

CATHI: Let me ask about that. How do you maintain yourself?

HARLAN: I get on the phone and hustle (laughs). I try to maintain steady relationships with the bookers and I have to fight for my position. It's ironic. It's a stressful life because it's so uncertain, but it's easy (laughs). I mean, that's why I do it -- it's one of those paradoxes. I do this better than anything else. I could never see the point of having a 9-5. I always thought that would just break me.

CATHI: Well, your playing is really in the pocket, yet you don't do much grand-standing. What's your basic playing philosophy?

HARLAN: Well, playing gets in your blood. You've got to be reliable, show up, make the front people look good, get out there and really LISTEN.

CATHI: So do you want to travel?

HARLAN: I think I'd like to do more of that now. I need to find the balance between travel and paying the bills. I don't have an extravagant life, but I'm not mean with myself either (laughs). So I do whatever it is I need to do to maintain this not-extravagant-but-okay-to-myself-lifestyle. I have to get paid and sometimes sticking around here is the easiest way to do that. But then I have more visibility at festivals…so it's a balance.

CATHI: As a side-man can you get an agent to help you book or do you have to scuffle along on your own?

HARLAN: Scuffle! If there is a way an agent can help a side-man I haven't found it -- please let me know!

CATHI: (Laughs) If I do -- I'll be doing it! What about recording? You have a big discography.

HARLAN: About 20 records I guess.

CATHI: Do people call you in just for studio work or is there a rehearsal period?

HARLAN: If I'm lucky. Maybe we'll rehearse a bit; it depends on the situation.

CATHI: Say I wanted to hire you to do a record. What would be your general fee?

HARLAN: I would beg and plead with you to drag every dime out of your pocket I could.

CATHI: (Laughter) Okay.

HARLAN: And then we'd meet in the middle somewhere. Measuring what you're worth is a challenge for any artist, don't you think? Price often depends on whether you've got a demo situation going on or a full-blown record on a label.

CATHI: What's your local choice for studio drummer?

HARLAN: Well I work with Ken Smith -- Willie ("Big Eyes" ) Smith's son. He's an excellent young drummer. He's got the tradition and is a very nice young man.

CATHI: Tell me more about Lonnie (Brooks).

HARLAN: Okay, what do you want to know? Lonnie's like a father to me. I was in my mid-20s and still getting experience when I worked with him. I got recording and traveling experience in that band, so yeah, that's a big marker in my life--with Lonnie. Lots of seasoning and lessons.

CATHI: And you've worked with Lurrie Bell? He's got that see-saw rickety history like his dad (Carey Bell) in a way.

HARLAN: Yeah, I've been on the last three things he's done--the last one still in the can. He's an amazing talent. He's got some demons…it's (playing with Lurrie) like catching lightning in a bottle. But on his last album I got the opportunity to write some songs!

CATHI: Great! Do such things pay residuals?

HARLAN: I'll let you know (laughter).

CATHI: So how'd you hook up with Tad Robinson?

HARLAN: Through Steve Freund. Tad's a beautiful guy. That's one of my favorite situations. Great singer, very nice man, and the group he puts together is very enjoyable to work with. I don't work with them as often as I'd like, but I think we're going to do more work behind his new record. I've been working with Dave Spector a lot these last couple of years. He gives me not only work opportunity, but recording stuff.

CATHI: He's doing a lot of producing?

HARLAN: Some. He's done his own albums and Lurrie's. I hooked up with Tad through him and a lot of Delmark work has come to me through him.

CATHI: Deitra Farr too?

HARLAN: I've known her for a long time. We used to work at "Kingston Mines." Typically with recording there'll be one or two rehearsals -- both taped. Then we'll have some way to work with the material. But you can't just go in to record the blues. You got to make it a part of you first. To really play a song well you have to feel it; hear it in your head. It actually becomes a part of you. And then once in awhile you gotta tackle something different to keep proving something to yourself.

CATHI: How about the Chicago scene today?…or the blues in general? Any observations on that? Do you think it's all turning into rock?

HARLAN: Well I would say the scene now is more of a tourist thing than anything artistic, but it does give bluesmen work. Blues getting rock-y was just inevitable. We're no longer living in a world that's regional and isolated. There's too much media, too many people getting around, and that's how culture travels and changes. Blues is no longer something players pick up where they live. They hear many more influences and musicians everywhere.

CATHI: What's it like to work with Otis (Rush)?

HARLAN: It's a BIG DEAL! Because he's OTIS RUSH!! What are you gonna say? It's an honor for the guy to call you. I worked with him for a couple of years, though I've know him for about 20. I did a European tour with Otis. He's amazing.

CATHI: So now though you continue your side-man duties, you also have a band?

HARLAN: A collective of friends. We call ourselves the "Fabulous Fish Heads." I try to function in as many different situations as I can so that if one things goes down, others are still moving.

CATHI: What kind of gear do you use?

HARLAN: Several different things. I have a lot of Peavey stuff. I use a Mega Bass and an older Peavey head. I have a couple of older Peavey amps -- four different rigs depending on how much power I need. I'm pretty much into solid state amps. The bass I use now is actually a mongrel--a Fender Jazz Bass neck on a Precision Bass body. The vintage thing has gotten so out of hand and I once had a ''66 Jazz bass that got stolen.

CATHI: A heartbreak…man. Do you use the big 15" speakers?

HARLAN: One. I have different cabinets with 15's, but the one I use most now is a Bag End cabinet I got from the area -- very portable and small. I have to move this stuff you know -- I'm old (laughs).

CATHI: (Laughs.) Me too. So what would you tell someone who wanted to go into blues these days?

HARLAN: Maybe I would quote Bob Stoger (another GREAT bass-man-about-town in Chicago--cn). I was in Europe with Dave Spector and Bob was at the same festival. He's been very nice to me. I was sort of crying to him. "Bob, I'd really like to do more of this stuff. What should I do?" And he said, "Play your ass off! Make people sound good! Talk to people!"

CATHI: (Laughs) Good for him!

HARLAN: So I say, "Keep hanging around," I guess. Network; talk to people. And a little patience never hurts a human being in any endeavor. Nothing happens overnight. It's like you wake up one day and see what your life is, and it's not what you planned. I mean you can make action plans and that's good, but mainly you just gotta do what you gotta do for that day. That seems to work; doing the next right thing. Sometimes it's a spiritual struggle. Am I doing the right thing? But I really love this, and we don't know how long we have. Not to do what seems to be right for you to do is not right -- can't be good. I don't know how long I have here and I've been lucky. I admit sometimes it's worrisome, but I've been able to do it.

CATHI: So would you call yourself an optimist Harlan? (Laughter)

HARLAN: I usually tell people I decided I'd be an optimist, but then I figured it would never work.

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This interview © 1999 Cathi Norton. Used by permission.All rights reserved.

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